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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.06.18 10:23:00 -
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FACT: if ships do not get blown up constantly, the following things will happen:
-building ships becomes worthless
-mining ore becomes worthless
-trade ceases to exist, since nobody needs anything.
CONCLUSION: it's a good thing that many many ships get blown up by other players every day, because mission NPCs are hilariously inept at doing it.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.06.19 15:24:00 -
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There is a very large disconnect between how certain types of player actions are perceived by others, and how they are experienced by the person doing them.
The ebil pirate that just blew up your innocent hauler and trolled you in local? There is a VERY good chance he is an incredibly nice person in real life, well-adjusted, and in the case of several people I know, does volunteer work to help the sick and elderly.
They just like to play the bad guy, just like some other like to play the trader, the manufacturing mogul or the drug smuggler.
None of these playstyles are more or less valid than any others.
I feel a lot of arguing and frustration about the way certain things in EVE are as opposed to how new players think it will be could be prevented by making extra-super-duper-mega-sure that EVERYONE understands that nowhere in space is completely safe. ever. EVER.
This is an incontrovertible part of EVE's design. It is a FACT, it will NEVER change and CCP wants it that way.
Without meaning to sound harsh, if you are not prepared to deal with this reality, then you will probably not enjoy EVE in the long term. If you can see past it, work around it, and use it to your advantage... you will prosper.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.06.19 15:55:00 -
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 Originally by: Hainnz
"You consent to PVP when you undock."
No. You (should) accept the possibility and prepare for PvP when you undock/log on. That doesn't mean you consent to PvP. If I cross a busy street, then I have to (or should if I have any sense) accept the possiblity that someone might run me down with a car. I'm not however giving anyone my consent to do so.
Good thing then, that a core principle of EVE online is non-consentual PVP.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.06.21 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Obyrith
Edited by: Obyrith on 21/06/2010 10:34:28
Originally by: Ranger 1
They both knew the nature of the game when they agreed to play.
This is the crux of the issue: a lot of people don't understand the nature of the game they're playing. Some people still don't after playing for years. CCP are partly to blame, for a tutorial that until very recently was all about completing missions for better ships, leading many people to assume that was the 'objective' of the game.
Really, of course, there is no objective, and the day an Eve player realises that is the day ship losses stop hurting and the overall experience becomes the point.
Ignorance of how the game works, is no excuse for being whiny poop-bags.
I have no pity for QQ about getting blown up/robbed/whatever.
The game is designed to allow for this. Anyone that does not want to deal with that, is free to play something else.
No complaining about it is EVER valid. It's an opinion that does not mesh with the design of the game, and is utterly irrelevant.
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